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THIS MAN IS COUNSELING OUR RETURNING SOLDIERS?
I BET HE MADE THEM FEEL WORSE BY ASKING HOW MANY WOMEN AND CHILDREN HE KILLED AS HE MADE HIM OR HER FEEL GUILTY FOR BEING THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE "ESPECIALLY FOR A WAR BASED ON A LIE!" THE POSSIBLITIES OF BRAINWASHING OUR SOLDIERS TO THE POINT OF MAKING THEM SUICIDAL, ANGRY, REVENGEFUL, AND REMORSEFUL ARE THE ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED!
All patients who visited this obvious psycho need to be re-evalutated and de-programmed! I also hope they reveal what Hasan told them!
RELIGION OR COUNTRY FIRST? IF IT'S NOT "COUNTRY FIRST" THEY NEED TO MOVE TO A COUNTRY THEY LOVE MORE!!!
Just plain stupid. You can kiss my ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl12Zqa18Yk do you know where they got that thinking? Muhammad himself the original!!! he ordered jihad and taught that muslims should love it as he did!
Volume 1, Book 2, Number 35:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostles, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr). Had I not found it difficult for my followers, then I would not remain behind any sariya going for Jihad and I would have loved to be martyred in Allah's cause and then made alive, and then martyred and then made alive, and then again martyred in His cause."
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Yet you have the freedom to express your hatred in my country?
unfortunatley for you the world understands how backwards and barbaric your thinking is.
Nobody cares what the Koran says about killing other people.
If the Koran said nothing about this, dipshits like you would find an excuse for this behavior somewhere else.
Hatred doesn't need religion to exist. Religion is just a lame excuse for your primitive behavior.
See, the general population will eventually dispose of people like you, We will limit the amount of children you can bear and we will raise your children to be loving and caring people.
You don't have a say in it because we run the world here.
Even your own people despise you.
And I can't for the life of me understand why you would lick its boots for it!
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ You already lick islams boots for slaughtering other peoples children so what would make you stop if or when it comes for yours? Islam in its own words, tell of how it intends to dominate or kill you and your children bother to get to know what your defending and don't just be a mindless zombie for islam helping it oppress and kill! STAND UP FOR HUMAN RIGHTS FIRST not the ancient dead barbarians from HELL!!!
http://truthtube.tv/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
For something even more hate mongering, twisted, and delusional, try reading the Koran and the Hadith. I love the muslim friends that I have worked with and known. I hate Islam with a passion. I don't think I could kiss your @$$ if I wanted too, it is planted too firmly in the chair of politically correctness.
I don't question the USA holding enemies to their agreements with us, I question when we don't. I can't see your perspective because I can't get my head up my rear.
My kiss for your *ss is a well-shined size 8, now bend over.
You really arn't upset about this shooting are you?
How many times have Christains shot up our post offices, schools, malls and what not?
Maybe Timothy McVeigh is a Muslim and therefore you can rationalize your BS
it is estimated there is at least 2.8 million Muslims in this country.
Add up all the "terrorist" acts in our country commited by Muslim Americans in the past 10 years and divide that by at least 4 million
This doesn't appear to be a terrorist attack sense there are numerous accounts of him being in mental despair.
If we accumulated all random shootings of Americans that have Christain roots and divide that by the number of Christians in our country, I wonder what that ratio would be?
And would these acts be labeled as acts of terrorism?
If someone in your family commited a similar act and cited Biblical text and handed out Bibles before their shooting rampage, can I hold them to the same standard as you hold Muslim Americans?
Sure there are good people who happen to claim to be muslim but , They sure don't really follow islam! Please don't support islams genocides all over the world!!!
Genocide of Shias in pakistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4flce53rFgw
http://letusbuildpakistan.blogspot.com/2008/10/...
Parachinar Massacre of Innocent Shias and Sunnis: Designed and Implemented by Taliban, Al-Qaeda, Sipah-e-Sahaba and ISI
Even if either one did that doesn't condone such behavior.
But that isn't the queston here. We are trying decipher what the motive was behind the shooting.
Was Hasan dispondent like millions of other Americans that have commited similar acts from shooting up schools to goint postal?
To say one is licking the boots of Islam for asking these questions and asserting ones position is crazy.
You are missing the boat here.
We need to hate Muslims because of the alliance with big oil, conservative Republicans, and Israel.
We don't have a choice!
People like the likes of Bush and Cheney need to use the far right Christians as their stooges --- These fricken far right weirdo's think that they were given the divine authority to creat the State of Israel in order to fulfill prophesy.
This all works too well for the conservative Jews so the alliance goes like this:
far right freak Christains are stooges for Big Oil and Israel.
For obvious reasons, Muslims are a threat to Israels colonial ambitions of their Holy land.
You need to understand that Liberals need this as much as big oil because it keeps big oil and Israel more preoccupied on this agenda instead on something other than our domestic agenda's.
If they were not giving trillions of dollars for Israel and their big oil agenda's they would be too involved in enslaving the average American.
Americans need this necessary evil in order to barter with the devil
Your Bible college doesn't permit thinking for yourself.
You are just expose to listen to your Pastor and do what he says.
don't concern yourself with what I write because 'being objective isn't part of your aparatus.
Wheres your retired Mother?
Lary
BTW, I worked at Fort Hood for 4 years, just 3 blocks from the shooting site. I have seen the names of friends and former coworkers in the media coverage -- none dead or injured, Thank God!
My thoughts and prayers go out to the injured and the families of the dead and injured.
He certainly may have been ultimately politically motivated and partially embittered by his experiences on the job (with bigotry), and may have a mental illness, but there is no more specific reason to imagine, at this stage that Islam, 'radical' or otherwise was a major factor, any more than Alcoholic Anonymous, or the Protestant faith may have been a major factor in the LA Fitness shooter's actions.
The connections here are spurious.
So world communism wont be like before, right Hoch. You guys wont be totalitarians like Stalin, Mao, Castro....they were bad guys, or maybe you do like them, I dont know. What brand of communism would you prefer? You would be nice to us, right, and guarantee our freedoms like we do yours?
As far as revolution here. Probably not in my lifetime. I am 68 but that is all right. The fever for revolution is moving now in many third world countries and it is going to be a world movement. America will not be able to cover all the guerilla wars raging right now. They are called something else by the corporate press though. America must not know that capitalism is failing in the world and Marxism holds hope for the masses who have no food or medical attention and many survive for a time on dollars per year! America is too well off and too insulated by the greatest military in history and can put down insurrections with ease. However if we are plunged into a complete fall out economically i.e. depression that could hold some promise. Revolutions cannot be predicted. Conditions must occur that make them inevitable. Too many for this format to illustrate. It can get very complex. Dialectical Materialism is what Marx called it and it was a bit of genius. It is all based on a scientific theory that is playing out right now in the world. Capitalism is helping it a lot because the benefits are not for the workers or peasants in the economy. I will say being a communist helps me understand a lot of what is going on and allows me to take a sober look at it all. Being a teacher is my trade, retired now. Good day.
Well maybe your comrad in the White House will help bring about the world communism you hope for, cause all us disenfranchized, down trodden here in America are ready for that kind of change.
Dude you got a nickel? : (
The inquisitors are all long dead, muslims are murdering for allah today.
You don't like the inquisitors example, how about this one- some dude who is in the same group as you in some way did something terrible and claimed that your group justified his actions- according to your logic you MUST agree with him and subscribe to the same twisted logic, unless you successfully read his mind, find him and turn him in first.
There, that wasnt so hard now was it?
The incident at Ft. Hood was not a tragedy; it was an ATROCITY!
Why do you HATE America? Why are you trying to destroy America with your lies?????? Jesus said that the world would know us (Christians) by our LOVE, where is the love ??????????????
http://www.apaam.org/
As further details of the story emerge, there is increasing reason to believe that Major Hasan may well have had a religious motive for this Islamic ritual slaughter.
AP has reported:
At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.
They had not determined for certain whether Hasan is the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.
Here is the posting in question:
NidalHasan scribbled: There was a grenade thrown amongs a group of American soldiers. One of the soldiers, feeling that it was to late for everyone to flee jumped on the grave with the intention of saving his comrades. Indeed he saved them. He inentionally took his life (suicide) for a noble cause i.e. saving the lives of his soldier. To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause. Scholars have paralled this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers. If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory. Their intention is not to die because of some despair. The same can be said for the Kamikazees in Japan. They died (via crashing their planes into ships) to kill the enemies for the homeland. You can call them crazy i you want but their act was not one of suicide that is despised by Islam. So the scholars main point is that “IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOUR INTENTION IS THE MAIN ISSUE” and Allah (SWT) knows best.
Then there is this from the BBC(London):
Early on Friday the commander of the Fort Hood base, Lt Gen Robert Cone, told reporters that, according to eyewitnesses, the gunman had shouted the Arabic phrase “Allahu Akbar!” [God is great] before opening fire.
The Telegraph reports(London):
“He was making outlandish comments condemning our foreign policy and claimed Muslims had the right to rise up and attack Americans,” Col Lee told Fox News.
“He said Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor and that we should not be in the war in the first place.” He said that Maj Hasan said he was “happy” when a US soldier was killed in an attack on a military recruitment centre in Arkansas in June. An American convert to Islam was accused of the shootings.
Col Lee alleged that other officers had told him that Maj Hasan had said “maybe people should strap bombs on themselves and go to Time Square” in New York.
Sounds like he could have been influenced by Michael Moore-on, Pelosi, Reid, Murtha, Boxer, NBC, CBS, ABC, NPR, PBS, CNN, MSLSD, Washington Compost, NY Slimes, Media Matters, Daily Kos, MorOn.ugh, and the rest of the leftist party and kooks in the U.S. as much as the Muslim Brotherhood.
http://www.apaam.org/
Untill that day comes, they have the same rights you do so get use to it.
http://xrl.us/bf29mb
Read the damn book,then make your same statement.
This nation is in very deep trouble.
The old maxim remains true; People always get the government they deserve.
Why are we not defending our culture as the current war on terrorism is hell bent on destroying it starting with the destruction of the educated middle class with phony diversity? War is evil and a country's refusal to protect its citizens against that evil is not only more evil but also criminally irresponsible.
proof of that considering that 2007 our country showed its second greatest
economic growth ever. That aside, politicians do not create economic growth
as they are parasites not contributors to wealth.
The greatest threat to the middle class is the continuous re-election of
politicians from all parties who, even if clean when entering office, become
corrupt by pork barrel and log rolling politicians. I know they don't teach
Civics in schools today but Congress makes our laws yet they are not
restrict by Congressional Term Limits which the Left/Right,
Conservative/Liberals are silent about.
As long as people like yourself play partisanship our government will
continue to grow at the cost to the middle class. The political class and
professional politicians spend all of their time on raising money from
special interest, regardless of political party. Wouldn't making the RNC
and DNC illegal and making all elections non-partisan be refreshing?
I would hope that you would be more objective. Radical Republicans; too
much time getting your information from T.V.? Get a life. Is supporting
Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly, Freedom of Expression and Free
Enterprise "Radical"? You must be confusing the people who have these
values with the Crony Capitalists on Wall Street who get fees from our ever
expanding debt and, therefore, contribute heavily to collectivists like
Barney Frank and Chris Dodd who learned his corruption from sitting on his
father's need.
If you ever have a fact I would like to see it. Your opinion, like my own,
is really worthless.
CONGRESSIONAL TERM LIMITS NOW - That is truly non-partisan and necessary for
Freedom and Liberty!!
continue to grow at the cost to the middle class"
Socialism usually creates a middle class through redistribution of wealth.
Unfortunately, yesterday congress passed this health care plan that will require me to pay a premium to offset medical costs for people who don't phyically take care of themselves.
It takes money from the wealthiest and distributes it to the very poorest.
This levels the economic class.
We live in a two party democracy and one offsets the other. Eventually conservatives will regain the house and we will be undoing much of what is being set in place today.
The cycle continues.
Anyway, everything quoted here is consistent with doctrinally correct Islam, as spelled out in the Koran, Hadith, and Sira.
Awhile ago I sent an email to our police force and border patrol because I was concerned about a person who comes to Canada and teach Muslims due to hid belief.
Here is a copy of that email and I have included a copy of the response from our border patrol - This realy concerns me.
COPY OF MY EMAIL
Hi
I am not reporting a crime as such, plus I am not a racist or against any religion. Every person should have the right to belong to whatever religion they want too, but I do have a concern when a person like Mufti Ebrahim Desai comes to Canada to teach his beilefs, because he believes and teaches that anyone who leaves islam should be executed. I quote from his own answer. QUOTE:This law of executing the renegade is a unanimously accepted rule according to all Muslims. UNQUOTE
Here is the URL that has his answer regarding someone that leaves Islam
http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=09...
So my question is. Why would someone who teaches the death penaly for leaving a religion even be allowed to come to Canada and bring such a grave teaching to our country?
Here is the URL that says he has been visiting the US and Canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mufti_Ebrahim_Desai
Mufti Ebrahim Desai (db) also has been visiting the US & Canada for the past 10 years in an effort to educate and revive the Islamic spirit among the Muslims here.
COPY OF THE RESPONSE FROM OUR BORDER PATROL
This is a response to your e-mail inquiring about who is allowed into
Canada; specifically, why an individual who openly expresses his belief
to execute those who choose to leave the Islamic faith would be
authorized entry into Canada.
According to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, all foreign
nationals who seek to enter Canada must meet the requirements of the Act
and not be inadmissible to Canada. A foreign national may be found
inadmissible to Canada on the grounds of security, human or
international rights violations, criminality, organized crime, health,
financial reasons, misrepresentation, an inadmissible family member, or
non-compliance with the Act. When a person arrives at a port of entry in
Canada, they are protected under the Canadian Charter of Rights and
Freedoms, and as such, they are subject to the fundamental right of
freedom of thought, belief, opinion, and expression. As a result, while
you may disagree with Mr. Desai's beliefs and teachings, he cannot be
found inadmissible to Canada solely for them.
The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) appreciates and understands
your concerns, and we take seriously our commitment to provide
high-quality service to travellers while ensuring that Canadian society
is protected through the responsible enforcement of our laws. Our Agency
plays an important role in the law enforcement community, as border
services officers are uniquely positioned to interview travellers and
importers and to examine personal and commercial goods entering and
leaving Canada. The challenge of our mandate is to ensure that only
admissible people and goods have access to Canada.
We trust that this information is helpful. Thank you for contacting the
CBSA.
Internet: www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca
E-mail: cbsa-asfc@canada.gc.ca
Canada Border Services Agency
Ottawa, ON K1A 0L8
Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199501.php
http://www.bestpricemoving.net
http://letusbuildpakistan.blogspot.com/2008/10/...
Genocide of Shias in pakistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4flce53rFgw
http://letusbuildpakistan.blogspot.com/2008/10/...
http://letusbuildpakistan.blogspot.com/2008/10/...
Parachinar Massacre of Innocent Shias and Sunnis: Designed and Implemented by Taliban, Al-Qaeda, Sipah-e-Sahaba and ISI
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1714/pic4qf5...
Open Your Eyes, SWEDEN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ6VI_bc1j4&feat...
Muslims In Belgium
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAivyEazJQ0&NR=1
Spain is the land of Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWCgNG6xJJs&NR=1
The fruit of Islam in Europe 2. Awake up Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43fEk9F4wIg&feat...
Europastan: The Islamic Future of Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2CPmc8OIoc&NR=1
In Sweden, many Muslim youth wear a t-shirt proclaiming: “2030-then we take over”
“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”
—Former Algerian President Houari Boumedienne’s prophetic warning to Europe in a speech at the U.N. In 1974.
So much suffering of innocents. It is overwhelming. See: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Just thought I'd share with the forum what has been going on for the past several months.
http://www.muziqpakistan.com/board/index.php?sh...
SOME COMMENTS:
Tooty Frooty:
I watched the video yesterday...Its heartbreaking and dissapointing to see the government do nothing about it!...May God bless these martyrs and give patience to their families and the whole parachinar community who are suffering at the hands of these oppressors.
Morq:
The tribal areas needs to be under martial rule, and militants needs to be chased till death or put forth on trial. this cannot be acceptable, not becouse they are shias, but becouse they are pakistanis and human beeings!!
Safir:
It is really sad to see that we Muslims have become such butchers. These people claim to be Muslims but do everything which is against the teachings of Islam. Its a shame. No wonder Muslims are being portrayed as terrorists and lawless people all over the world. I think its about time that all these so called radical religious parties are banned.
The constant drum of political division in this country is a crucial part of this tragedy.
Many in Washington did their part to ferment this anti American (Bush) sentiment.
It galvanized a consensus that our countries actions were dishonest and malicious in nature.
As a parent of soldiers in harms way I can honestly say that I feel betrayed by these parties and will NEVER forgive them for what they've blindly created.
The reasoning is faulty, and Gaubatz' point of view of is racist and bigoted.